Bromley Borough Local History Society
Registered Charity
No. 273 963
Bromley Borough Local History Society
Summary of Committee Meeting held on 19th July 2023
Following the usual preliminaries, the meeting turned to a discussion of our 50th anniversary next year. One popular option was a celebration tea and a number of local places with historic links have been contacted and an assessment made of access, parking and facilities. One site will be looked at in more detail with a view to coming to a firm decision.
The publications officer regretfully advised the committee that he would be standing down with immediate effect. David Ferguson volunteered to take over the position and it was agreed that John would continue to provide any help needed to make his task a success. Both members were thanked for their contributions.
The membership secretary reported that there were currently 171 subscriptions of which more than 50 were couples. She had now completed the work necessary to update the list and removed the few people who no longer paid subscriptions or were deceased.
Mike confirmed that the programme for the rest of the year was on the website and a one-off licence would be obtained for the Zoom meeting in August. He asked that he be given some help with organising events outside of the monthly meetings. This had happened with a walk round Beckenham and to St. George’s church and was much appreciated. A planned visit to Croydon Airport was proving popular but a small contribution from the Society might be needed (in fact it wasn’t). He was looking into other visits but he felt other people should be involved.
There was then some discussion on how speakers should be rewarded. Some are happy to speak free if, for example, they can promote their new book. Others ask for a fee or a contribution to charity. It was agreed that we would continue to meet each speaker’s requirements as they arise and not implement a one-size fits all.
Members’ Evening was scheduled for July rather than September this year and there was some discussion on which was best without any decision being reached. It was agreed that the January 2024 meeting should be on Zoom.
Christine repeated that she felt her time as magazine editor would have to be reduced and how to replace her role would have to be addressed.
The next meeting will be on Thursday 28th September 2023.
Summary of Committee Meeting held on 10th May 2023
After welcoming the attendees, the previous minutes were approved and signed by the Chairman without further comment.
(Note, some recent meetings have not been recorded here but nothing major has gone unreported!)
The Society’s costs were reviewed, particularly in the light of upward cost pressures. Whilst it was agreed, based on the Treasurer’s update on finance, that no rises in subscriptions were required beyond the ending of concessions already carried out, the meeting fee should be raised to £1 (£2 for visitors) but this would be inclusive of tea and coffee. This would be introduced in September.
The Chairman commented that the Society had had a good year and thanked the Committee for their support and hard work. Although unable to attend, the Vice Chairman had written to suggest BBLHS should be added to the list of societies in the Local Historian which was agreed.
Membership numbers, at over 170, were satisfactory and it was agreed that a new category, Hon. Life Membership should be offered to those who had served the Society through their research or other assistance over a significant period. Some possible candidates were discussed. The programmed co-ordinator confirmed the proposed outing to Croydon Airport would take place on Saturday 12th August and he would look into possible visits to Scadbury and elsewhere in the Borough.
The magazine editor invited suggestions for possible themes for Bromleag next year to mark our 50th anniversary. She also confirmed that it was her intention to retire from the role in the fairly near future, possibly the end of 2024. Identifying a successor would have to be addressed more urgently. With the reduced involvement of the Publications officer, another committee member said he would take over the bookstall. With all CDs now sold (subject to confirmation from the Publications officer), the publicity officer suggested that the Bromley Record should now be put on-line, which was agreed.
The Library representative gave an update on staffing changes in the Local Archives section but it was hoped current vacancies were now being filled. He said that the Library would be delighted to receive more pictures of residential properties around the Borough, especially if taken in the 1950s, to add to their resources.
How to mark the 50th anniversary was further discussed and a number of ideas put forward. The Chairman undertook to follow up on these suggestions and make further enquires.
Under AOB, the need to revise the Society’s Constitution was again raised. It had fallen into abeyance during Covid and there was some doubt over what was the correct version. The Chairman will attempt to resolve this.
The next meeting would be held on Wednesday 19th July 2023.
Summary of Committee Meeting held on Tuesday 17th May 2022
Following apologies for absence of the vice Chairman who was unwell, the Chairman welcomed new members to the Committee.
He then commented on the success of the AGM which over 90 people attended, the speaker having encouraged extra support. He added that she was continuing her research and it was hoped a further presentation might be possible in the future. However, there was some discussion on the format of the AGM and it was agreed this would be further considered for next year.
Elaine advised that she now had 166 potential and confirmed members on the mailing list. She was also reviewing other local societies with whom there was a reciprocal exchange of information and/or magazines.
Mike then confirmed that the program was complete for the year and some speakers who had withdrawn during the pandemic would be available in the future. The planned outings were reviewed and further arrangements to advertise them agreed.
It was reported by Christine that our long-standing magazine printer had failed and she was looking for suitable replacements. Some recommendations were made and it was agreed she should use her judgement as to the best available. A long standing member had made a generous donation of books to the Society.
The next meeting will be on Tuesday 23rd August and any Members with items they wish to raise should contact any Committee member ahead of that date.
Summary of Committee Meeting held on Tuesday 22nd February 2022
The Chairman welcomed those present and reported on apologies for absence (2). The minutes for the previous meeting were approved and signed.
He then reviewed the new meeting hall and felt it had been welcomed by those attending, in surprisingly large numbers considering the circumstances. There was some discussion about the seating arrangements but it was decided to leave arrangements as they were for the present. He advised that he was submitting Bromleag to the LAMAS local history publications awards for 2022. He would also contact Bromley Arts Council regarding adding BBLHS to their diary.
As the Programme Secretary was isolating discussion was limited. Mike’s efforts to provide a programme for the year were applauded and his suggestions for summer visits reviewed and some further suggestions made which included both new places and a return to some we had not visited for many years. Members would be asked for their suggestions.
Elaine was welcomed back to the committee in her new role as membership secretary. She has been working hard to update the lists and to identify people who may still be registered but are not, for various reasons, any longer paid up members. It was agreed those concerned (excluding those entitled to free membership) should be contacted and, after a period of no response, should be removed from the members’ list with consequent savings in Bromleag printing and distribution costs. There may also be a need to update other Society’s contact details.
The treasurer confirmed that the Society was financially heathy and Max reported that he had now sold out of Bromley Record CDs and the money raised returned to the bequest fund.
The magazine editor advised that she had plenty of material for this year but planned to return to the 32 page issues. She will arrange re-printing of our publicity leaflets to reflect our new meeting place and would be representing BBLHS at the next on-line KAS meeting.
Max reported on the number of visits to the website which averaged over 1000 per month and on the number of members who had viewed on-line meetings later on YouTube. These are only accessible to members. He has also uploaded new photos of Farnborough Hospital to coincide with an article in Bromleag and will add a selection of paintings by Patricia Knowlden, the originals are now with a West Wickham society.
The library representative reported that there were several volunteers from the Society now at work in the archives but given the scale of things to be done, more would be welcome and it was agreed this opportunity would be brought to the attention of members. It was expected that some of the bequest money would be used for this work but so far this had not happened. However, Simon is undertaking the scanning of more street directories and would welcome financial assistance in the new financial year.
Some changes were being made to archive procedures to improve access to documents but restrictions were also being introduced to the department because of anti-social behaviour by a small group of school children. It was hoped this would only be temporary.
Under AOB, arrangements for the AGM were discussed and Elaine will contact the Mayor’s office to invite him to attend. The chairman will try and resolve an issue with a member of the committee who has not attended recent meetings which may require some change of roles. The need to attract younger member and deputies for some key roles was discussed. Christine confirmed she had met with the late Tony Allnutt’s widow and recovered various items of historical interest and some items have been transferred to Bromley archives.
Because this meeting had been postponed from last month but with the need to finalise arrangements for the AGM, the committee will meet again on Monday 21st March. Any members who would like to raise an issue should contact any committee member before that date.
Summary of Committee meeting held on Tuesday 19th October 2021
Although on-line committee meetings had continued through the pandemic, this was the first opportunity to actually meet up. This followed, what the Chairman David, considered a successful first meeting at our new venue at St. George’s church hall in Bickley. Members had been able to spread out and enjoy tea and coffee at tables, served from within the hall. It is currently booked to the end of the year but we expect to continue through 2022.
It was confirmed that all our meeting equipment had been retrieved from the old hall. It was agreed that Max would purchase a lectern and light for use by speakers. However, it was deemed impractical to record meetings, based on our own and others experience. It was also noted that the number of people watching the recordings had dropped off over the months and some speakers did not want their talks recorded anyway.
It was agreed that Committee members would provide the talks for the December meeting and Mike advised he had firmed up the programme for the first quarter of 2022.
Pam raised the question of members who had not paid subscriptions for some time but her figures for paid-up members and the email list held by Max did not seem to tie up. In Tony’s absence it was not possible to resolve this situation and it was agreed the three of them should ensure there was one correct list. It had implications for the number of magazines printed and mailed. Christine confirmed she had plenty of material for the present but she would discuss distribution arrangements with Elaine to see if they could be improved.
With the recent increase in Legacy money, there was further discussion on how some of might be spent. Previous efforts, such as a history writing competition, had not been supported. Simon suggested liaising with the Bromley Education Department to see if this could be revived. He also suggested contacting the Town Centre Management teams in Bromley, Beckenham and Orpington regarding the erection of blue plaques. Possible names to commemorate would be discussed at the next meeting.
It was noted that, with the move to a new meeting place, our publicity leaflets needed to be updated. Christine will arrange for the printing.
Simon has arranged for Local Studies to have more street directories digitised and placed on-line. If the new contractor proves reliable, he will extend the programme. The Library has been given a large collection of material from Alan Stoyle relating to the Orpington Field Club and other organisations. He advised that material that is rarely, if ever, accessed but that the library is obliged to keep, will be moved to a new off-site storage facility. Following information abut the forthcoming closure of some local churches, enquiries are being made about any archive material that may be held so that it can be safely retained.
Christine has been given an archive of material on the March family, important sculptors and painters who lived and worked in Farnborough in the early 20th century. This will eventually be deposited in Local Studies. Michael has deposited the archive of material on Bromley solicitors Latter and Willet, given a few years ago to BBLHS, in Local Studies.
The next meeting will be on 22nd February 2022. If you have any issues you wish us to discuss, please let a committee member know.
Summary of Committee meeting held on Wednesday 24th March 2021 (virtual)
Following approval of the previous minutes, the meeting continued with the agenda.
It was confirmed that David would take over liaison with other societies and that if any other Committee member received more groups’ publications, they would forward them to him and update the organisation concerned. After some discussion of the remaining duties of the Secretary which Elaine was giving up, David kindly agreed to replace her as Hon. Secretary. This would be for confirmation at the AGM.
Societies with whom we have contacts include BALH, LAMAS, KAS, ODAS, London Historians, Beckenham Historical Society,
Eltham Civic society; London Industrial Archaeological Society and NW Kent Family History Society.
Consideration then turned to publication of a book on Farnborough workhouse following the work done by one of our Members. Mike gave his support and suggested it would be a worthwhile use of some the legacy money. A lengthy discussion then followed on costs, possible content and size, the design and publishing activities involved and whether Print On Demand would be possible. Finally, it was agreed the author should be asked to provide an outline of her proposals and expectations, and a working group would be set up to progress the work. A Zoom meeting would be arranged for April.
Ruth advised that she had been keeping a diary and taking photographs of events related to the pandemic which she hoped would be useful for future historians. It was agreed this was an excellent idea provided the material was properly recorded and Simon offered the Library’s facilities for storage. It was decided that Members should be asked to contribute; mention of the idea would be included with the April meeting invitation.
Christine raised the subject of post-pandemic meetings which led to some discussion and possible options – back to “normal”, stay as we are, some mixture of both. One suggestion was that we hold live meetings during the summer and revert to on-line during the winter. It was agreed that no firm decision could or needed to be made at present but the matter needed much further thought.
The Chairman will liaise with the Mayor to agree final arrangements for the AGM on 6th April and Max would send her the Zoom details. He would as usual contact the speaker to confirm their presentation Zoom ready. Pam has sent Max a copy of the audited accounts which would be emailed to Members and published on the website. They would not be included in Bromleag.
Tony reported that we currently have over 180 members and most renewals had been received together with some generous donations. The recent increase in membership, mostly via the on-line facility, meant that the print-run for the next issue of Bromleag needed to be increased which Christine will arrange. She was pleased to add that she had sufficient material for the all issues this year.
Mike confirmed he had speakers for each month up to July (when the Chairman will be talking) and he concluded that the return of face to face meetings this year was unlikely and would plan accordingly.
In addition to the book production project, Max reminded members that the Library digitisation work, currently on hold, may be able to restart next month. He reported that the website continued to attract regular visits and questions and there were over 4000 photos on the site.
At the conclusion of the meeting, the Committee were distressed to hear that the Chairman had had further health problems recently and had regretfully decided that he could not continue in post after the AGM. He would not therefore be standing for re-election. The search for a replacement would need to be initiated next month.
Next meeting to be held (hopefully face to face) on July 13th. If you have any issues you wish us to discuss, please let a committee member know.
Summary of Committee meeting held on Tuesday 26th January 2021 (virtual)
Following signing of the previous minutes, the Chairman confirmed that Members not on email had been sent a Christmas newsletter. He also reported that one of our founder members Leonard Smith, now 96, had moved to sheltered accommodation.
Discussion then moved to improving links with organisations similar to BBLHS. As an organisation we were members of BALH, LAMAS, KAS and London Historians. Tony recalled there had been other groups covering NW Kent/SE London but it was agreed this had become somewhat confused. David volunteered to be the named contact and to maintain copies of other society magazines. Committee members with current contact information will pass this to him. Pam would confirm with the auditor how subscription payments be recorded without revealing any personal data.
Mike confirmed he had speakers for Zoom meetings up to June but would continue to keep arrangements flexible in the light of circumstances. Ruth agreed to contact the Mayor to confirm her attendance at the AGM which would return to its normal April date. It was agreed with Mike that the work of one of our previous speakers would make an interesting publication and he will discuss with her how to progress it under BBLHS aegis.
Christine advised that she had sufficient material for Bromleag in 2021. Max confirmed that the digitisation programme at the Library had been put on hold indefinitely but hopefully we would be able to restart it in the future.
The possible return to live meetings was briefly discussed but no conclusion was possible at this time.
The next meeting will be on Wednesday 24th March 2021. Any comments or suggestions from Members will be welcome.

Summary of Committee meeting held on Wednesday18th August 2020 (virtual)
Following the last meeting, it was confirmed that donations could be made on line using PayPal. After some discussion, it was decided that subscription renewals be requested as usual in January. It was agreed that a basic Zoom subscription should be purchased as there seemed no likelihood of resuming live meetings this year.
The new mayor (Hanna Gray) would be asked to chair our AGM on September 1st. She was thought to be keen to carry out her ceremonial functions despite the current situation. The previous mayor and long-term member Nicholas Bennett would be invited to become a Vice-President. Members would be asked if they wanted to contribute an item to the AGM as it would normally have been Members’ Evening. A trial run of the AGM would be arranged beforehand.
With hopefully a successful AGM, Zoom meetings will continue monthly with speakers agreed for October to January 2021 but later speakers had yet to be arranged. An additional news letter will be produced in October.
The continued use of Trinity church hall was discussed again. Whilst it has advantages, its limited size has become a bit of a problem and use of the large hall would mean a later start. Return to our previous venue, the Methodist church hall, was considered and the facilities and (relatively high) costs would be reviewed by Elaine before reporting back. A firm decision will probably need to await clarity on when live meetings can resume and people are prepared to attend.
The next on-line Committee meeting would be on Tuesday 8th September. Any comments from Members about the AGM or any other issues will be welcome.
Summary of Committee meeting held on Wednesday 22nd July 2020 (virtual)
At our first full on-line Committee meeting, most members successfully joined in.
Max updated the Committee on the work he had been doing on the website including provision of an on-line membership application/renewal form. This had required a new PayPal account to be set up which, in order to achieve the benefits of charity status, had proved somewhat challenging. However, early results suggested the new system was proving popular. A number of improvements to welcome new members were suggested.
The main discussion centred around the possibility of resuming meetings in the large hall at the current venue or moving to another hall. Although this remained an option for the future, it was agreed to hold on-line meetings at least until the end of 2020. It is planned to trial the Zoom system with the belated AGM on September 1st. Meetings will be recorded and uploaded to YouTube afterwards for those members unable to join the meetings.
A number of schemes to spend some more of the legacy money through local schools not having been welcomed as was hoped so it was suggested that we approach the library again to see what other historical documents might usefully be digitised and this is in hand.
Tudor was congratulated on his new book which is now being edited. Tony had received a letter from the family of the late Philip Daniels (of ENBRO) offering his book collection. It was agreed we should take them and Tudor volunteered to store them for the immediate future.
A further Zoom meeting will be held in August to confirm arrangements for the AGM.